Not really an arguement. I just am not sure that people (not on this forum board) understand what may happen when we lose the illegal work force. Two of the main areas that President Trump campaigned on was the economy (inflation) and illegal immigration. In alot of ways, they work against each other.

@kluurs said in Trump and your expectations: Trump is betting on Elon - because Elon was a winner in the past and bought influence. Well, he didnt always think that way. LOL From 2022 [image: images-1.fill.size_2000x1500.v1657735298.png]

@Jolly said in Joe Speaks: @89th said in Joe Speaks: I'm not seeing much from DOGE revealing stuff we didn't already know, Some of it we didn't, but the general public knows a lot more, because legacy media is almost being forced to carry this stuff as current news. And the hits just keep on coming. At what point is the American public motivated to tear at least some of it to shreds and reallocate the pieces? I think Americans have already voted for that with Trump's win, and Trump will do that (or at least try to) where it makes sense. I do enjoy overall the increased focus on "where is my tax dollar going?", even if it's not making a dent in the more existential threats such as the ballooning debt/deficit, SS solvency, and medicare.

Hmmm, maybe i am reading the below report wrong, but I see in 2024, 5/12 months were adjusted upwards and 7/12 adjusted downwards. In 2020, 5/12 months were adjusted upwards, and 7/12 adjusted downwards. https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesnaicsrev.htm#2019 Not a math person, so maybe someone better than me can translate. The first three numbers are seasonally adjusted numbers (3 revisions) and the second three are non-seasonaly adjusted. 2023 (2024 not yet shown) [image: 1739287507869-screen-shot-2025-02-11-at-9.22.52-am.png] 2020 [image: 1739287551719-screen-shot-2025-02-11-at-9.25.34-am.png]

And while we're at it, there are some outstanding diesel-electric sub designs to be had off-the-shelf, for a fraction of what a nuclear submarine costs. For some roles, they are ideal.

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I think Trump is pathologically unable to realize he can lose at stuff...elections, business, court, almost like he lives in his own reality (like Steve Jobs would do sometimes, I've read).

I'm guessing not.

Yorkshire lads back from when I were a lad.

Not terribly different from how it was handled in the past…

My friend that played organ for the Capitals got a ring when they won the Stanley Cup.

@Axtremus said in Home insurance spike: @89th said in Home insurance spike: ... and a special jewelry policy. Yours, hers, or Aqua's sister's? I don’t think Aqua’s Sister’s Pearl Necklace can be covered.

That's right up there with cockwomble.

@Axtremus said in 38,000 died building Panama Canal?: @LuFins-Dad said in 38,000 died building Panama Canal?: And while most of those Americans were Central Americans, they are still Americans. I once used "USian" to refer to United States nationals and "Americans" to more generally refer to all nationals of the Americas continents. Many of you folks did not like it, not sure if @LuFins-Dad was among them. :man-shrugging: In South America they’ll say ‘Norteamericano’ to mean US citizen. In Mexico, since they’re North Americans too, they say ‘Estadounidense’ That’s when they don’t just say ‘gringo’

There are also plenty of moderate gentiles who wholeheartedly support Israel and the Zionist cause but are not supportive of Netanyahu and the present coalition. That certainly does not make them or me, anti-Semitic. Nor does it make any of my many Jewish friends into self loathing Jews as some self righteous and purportedly pious gentiles have not only suggested, but insisted.

Geriatric Overt Petulance.

@jon-nyc said in Who is this person?: I think he’s the governor of Pennsylvania. POTD